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Gunslinger's Guide to PvP

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First of all this is a small updated guide for people who wanna use a Gunslinger the old guide can be found here for those who want a different build. http://www.gathering...?showtopic=4565 I will note when I have used something from this thread to credit them.

Second of All this guide will be divided into 2 segment's 1 for Revolver Type's and 1 for Rifle Type's I won't do Grenade Launcher or Gatling since they are rarely used but if someone want's to contribute a build for those 2 Weapon's feel free to post it here or pm it to me and I'll update the First post crediting you.

Third,Some of these Weapon's or Skill's will be in the Next Update((Aug.10th's Update)) be sure to read the guide Carefully.

Fourth MUST READ Update Thank's to Beastboy.

Despite the fact that alot of people claim that adjustment reduces your dmg, it doesnt. Adjustment reduces INCOMING ranged damage. Also after the update, Gunslinger Buffs will have a 5 minute duration (save for madness canceler because you cant move while its active and 5 minutes would be your doom)

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Gunslinger-Revolver Type's

Stat's

Str-20-80((I have 80 for a Giant Whisper Card))

Agi-185 or to when you hit 190 ASP

Vit-130

Dex-200

Luk-Rest is added here.

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Gear's to Equip

Upper-30164.gif?nocache=1490950697Prism #2,30011.gif?nocache=525012855Blessed Valk Helm,or any slotted Headdie,Card to use Kiel.

Middle-30161.gif?nocache=1744796252Noble Mask or 30026.gif?nocache=1235855680Nebula Aura,Card for Slot Kiel or Maya P.

Armor-2382.gif?nocache=493502693Elite Shooter Suit((Battleground Equipment Set)) or 2353.gif?nocache=460193973Odin's Blessing if you can't get enough badges,Card for slot Tao Gunka is Recommended if you cant Afford that try GR,Pest((Stone Curse)) or Peco Peco Card.

Weapon-13108.gif?nocache=2082105414Soldier Revolver((Battleground Gun)),13107.gif?nocache=1624079014+10 Western Outlaw[2]((2 Hydra's)),or 13106.gif?nocache=1063584829+10Gold Lux[4]((Only availible after the newest update with the new Slotter NPC,2Hydra's,Valkyrie Randgris,Inca or Thanatos))

Manteau-2540.gif?nocache=1643048551Sheriff's Manteau((Battleground Equipment Set)),2536.gif?nocache=227562913+5-7 Skin of Ventross,Card to use Giant Whisper,Raydric,or Deviling.

Shoe's-2437.gif?nocache=200567624Battle Boots((Battleground Equipment Set)),or any slotted Shoe,Card to put Matyr or Amon Ra

Accessory-2604.gif?nocache=1265829542x Glove's [1],one with Horong and one with either Yoyo or Errande for Pneuma.,or if you have the Point's a 2733.gif?nocache=768142129Sheriff's Badge((Battleground Accessory))

Now the Battleground Equipment Set Combo is this.

+12% Hp,Reduce After-Cast Delay by 25%,Take 3x More Damage from monster's other than Demi-Human,should get a 4% Resist to Demi-Human,and some dex too

Also the Reason I never added +10 Garrison[2] is because it is not worth the effort.

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Skill's needed to use in PvP

Flip Coin Lv 5-This Skill is needed for other's down the road keep it hotkey'd

Triple Action-Not Needed but you'll have it in your list anyways

Bull's Eye-This skill will most likely be spammed in PvP after the new update 500% Damage and a 1% Chance to coma.

Increasing Accuracy-It's a nice buff to have in the battle +20 Hit,+4 Dex & Agi Lasts for 5 Min's!

Cracker-This Skill will have a chance to cause Forced Stun and will work on Human's.EDIT:This skill causes FORCED Stun which mean it stun's regardless of Vit or even if your opponent has a Orc H

Tracking-Probably won't use this too often but it's good if your oppenent is running away even if he get's far off as long as your cast isn't interrupted it'll hit him.

Disarm-This skill is a Must have for any GS,It will do Damage to the Foe and has a chance to strip their weapon this skill can turn the tide of battle if used correctly.

Rapid Shower-With the 2 Kiel's & The BG Set this can be a spammable skill and can be deadly if someone is careless.

Desperado-The one skill you may rely on the most,this is a perfect skill for close range fighters and whats even better Pneuma can't affect this skill AT ALL and with the 2x Kiel and BG Set you can spam till your opponent is dead I do around 6-8k per hit with this skill.

W/e Skill Point's you have left spend on Revolver Skill's or Rifle's

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Gunslinger-Rifle Type's

Stat Build

Str-20

Agi-Till you get 185-187 ASP You'll probably need a ASP Pot.

Vit-Whatever's left from the Dex and Luk

Dex-200

Luk-200

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Gear's to Equip

Upper-30164.gif?nocache=1490950697Prism #2,30011.gif?nocache=525012855Blessed Valk Helm,or any slotted Headdie,Card to use Kiel.

Middle-30161.gif?nocache=1744796252Noble Mask or 30026.gif?nocache=1235855680Nebula Aura,Card for Slot Kiel or Maya P.

Armor-2382.gif?nocache=493502693Elite Shooter Suit((Battleground Equipment Set)) or 2353.gif?nocache=460193973Odin's Blessing if you can't get enough badges,Card to Slot for slot Tao Gunka is Recommended if you cant Afford that try GR or Peco Peco Card.

Weapon-13171.gif?nocache=431647199Soldier's Rifle((Battleground Gun)),13170.gif?nocache=2017216023+10 Lever Action Rifle[2]((Hydra&Inca/Thanatos)),13163.gif?nocache=1160063666Long Barrel[1]((Inca/Thanatos)).

Manteau-2540.gif?nocache=1643048551Sheriff's Manteau((Battleground Equipment Set)),2536.gif?nocache=227562913+5-7 Skin of Ventross,Card to use Giant Whisper,Raydric,or Deviling.

Shoe's-2437.gif?nocache=200567624Battle Boots((Battleground Equipment Set)),or any slotted Shoe,Card to put Matyr or Amon Ra

Accessory-2604.gif?nocache=1265829542x Glove's [1],one with Horong and one with either Berze for Cast Time((if it works)),Yoyo for PD, or Errande for Pneuma.,or if you have the Point's a 2733.gif?nocache=768142129Sheriff's Badge((Battleground Accessory))

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Skill's to use for PvP

Flip Coin Lv 5-This Skill is needed for other's down the road keep it hotkey'd

Triple Action-Not Needed but you'll have it in your list anyways.

Bull's Eye-This skill will most likely be spammed in PvP after the new update 500% Damage and a 1% Chance to coma

Increasing Accuracy-It's a nice buff to have in the battle +20 Hit,+4 Dex & Agi this lasts for 5mins

Cracker-This Skill will have a chance to cause Forced Stun and will work on Human's EDIT:This skill causes FORCED Stun which mean it stun's regardless of Vit or even if your opponent has a Orc Hero Card this will be one of your trump cards in combat.

Tracking-This will Be your Key Move in this battle type but the Cast will be a problem.

Disarm-This skill is a Must have for any GS,It will do Damage to the Foe and has a chance to strip their weapon this skill can turn the tide of battle if used correctly.

Madness Canceler-Increase's Atk +100,ASP 20% only real downside is you can't use skill's while using this skill and you cant move so plan before using.

Side Note's to The Rifle Build,I haven't tried this build so if you find any improvement's to it please post and let me know!

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i have a minor info to add, despite the fact that a lotta peeps claim that adjustment reduces your dmg, it doesnt. Adjustment reduces INCOMING ranged damage. Also after the update, Gunslinger Buffs will have a 5 minute duration (save for madness canceler because you cant move while its active and 5 minutes would be your doom)

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i have a minor info to add, despite the fact that a lotta peeps claim that adjustment reduces your dmg, it doesnt. Adjustment reduces INCOMING ranged damage. Also after the update, Gunslinger Buffs will have a 5 minute duration (save for madness canceler because you cant move while its active and 5 minutes would be your doom)

Alright thank you very much for that Info BeastBoy I'll Add it to the Post =D

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  • 9 months later...

the one who created this quit already (not that sure tho xD) thats why AoL is not included there xD or there is no update to it whatsoever

and btw howling does affect them making the desperado having a cast time

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desperado's dmg is based on dex, gunslingers doesn't need that much str just for carrying items and bullets only it needs more hit than atk just try noticing at the passive skills on gunners, it usually adds hit + dex to strengthen their dmg... just saying

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desperado's dmg is based on dex, gunslingers doesn't need that much str just for carrying items and bullets only it needs more hit than atk just try noticing at the passive skills on gunners, it usually adds hit + dex to strengthen their dmg... just saying

I still said Desperado's damages are based on STR, because : this skill is treated as a melee attack.

We all know Melee Attacks depend on STR

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Doc, i don't think that's the case, if you look at minstrels and wanderers, they use melee weapons but benefit from dex more than str

looking also at the skill description desperado, there is no mention of STR so in theory, it should be based on the atk which for guns is increased by dex

long story short: unless it was specifically mentioned, Desperado should not benefit that much from str

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*sigh*

1st thing, Gunslingers are Long range class, Means the dmg they does is from DEXTERITY, Dex on Rangers/Mins/Wanderer/GS is the base of their atks, BUT on the other hand, str contributes a little on their atks, like 5str=1atk or so ... same as Melee Class Str is the base of their atk, and adding Dex contributes a little addition on their atk. 5dex=1atk or so . . . Desperado being a close range skill doesn't mean its a Melee atk. it still uses a Gun in able to do the skill. <_<

Oh well, lets see!

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*sigh*

1st thing, Gunslingers are Long range class, Means the dmg they does is from DEXTERITY, Dex on Rangers/Mins/Wanderer/GS is the base of their atks, BUT on the other hand, str contributes a little on their atks, like 5str=1atk or so ... same as Melee Class Str is the base of their atk, and adding Dex contributes a little addition on their atk. 5dex=1atk or so . . . Desperado being a close range skill doesn't mean its a Melee atk. it still uses a Gun in able to do the skill. <_<

Oh well, lets see!

Look on a wiki, it's said that EVEN IN RENEWAL, it is considered as a Melee Attack...

FUUUUUUUUUU

Edit : Link -> http://irowiki.org/wiki/Desperado

'cause i know there's lot of lazy guys on this serv >.>

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FUUUUUUUUUU

'cause i know there's lot of lazy guys on this serv >.>

Ok, Given The fact that it is Considered as a Melee atk, Still it doesn't Change the fact that Gunslinger's Physical attack is from DEX! As iit says; it is CONSIDERED Melee atk. C O N S I D E R E D .

Yea', There are a lot of Lazy People out here, and that including me! Try to check the Stats on This Link!

https://gatheringro.com/wiki/Renewal_Changes#Offense_and_Damage_Formulas

With Bows, Guns, Musical Instruments and Whips, the increase in physical attack power from DEX and STR are swapped, making DEX the primary damage stat.

Oh, And FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Too! ;)

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^ I do believe that the damage of desperado increases as dex increases. :D

'coz the damage factor for desperado is atk and I do believe that dex affects the atk of long ranged weapons, whips and instruments. :o

soooo, dex primarily increases the damage, 'tho it's a melee attack it ignores pneuma :o

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^ I do believe that the damage of desperado increases as dex increases. :D

'coz the damage factor for desperado is atk and I do believe that dex affects the atk of long ranged weapons, whips and instruments. :o

soooo, dex primarily increases the damage, 'tho it's a melee attack it ignores pneuma :o

yes! dex are for long range type characters

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Results of the experience :

-Dex and Str both increases, however, Str doesn't increase as much as Dex (okay i was wrong then).

Proofs :

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Dex > Str = 1758

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Dex > Str (by 5 points) = 1856, Str increases damages

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Dex > Str = 1949

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Dex > Str (5 points) = 1959 ~ 1968

Special thanks to :

Sirk

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https://gatheringro.com/wiki/Renewal_Changes#Stats

The explanations are there. Melee dmg is therefore increased by STR, STR increase the ATK power of Swords, Daggers, Spears. Dex and Luk can increased ones atk but by a little amount. Range dmg is therefore increase by DEX, DEX increase ATK power of Guns, Bows, Whips, Guitar(Music instrument) etc. Str and Luk can increase ones atk by a little amount.

So you're argument of STR increasing Gunslinger's(Desperado skill) ATK is Hereby accepted, but when you said STR is the main SOURCE of Desperado's dmg, LoL That's a mere Joke. Even Desperado is considered melee atk(ignores Pneuma), Gunslinger's Weapons are still guns, So the main component of their ATK power is still DEX.

Amen.

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Here are the Results of my test

Thanks to:

DrHell

First I establish a base damage range

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at 1 all stats, I deal about 1,200+ to 1,400+

Next I place 79 stat points on Str ( for those who want to use Giant whisper)

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This increased my damage to around 1,500+ to 1,600+

Then i decide to max out Str

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This increase my damage to 1,900+ to 2,00+

Next I reset again ( Bye bye my Zenies) then i place 79 Dex for comparison

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This made me deal around 2,700+ damage

Then finally I max out Dex

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This increased my Damage to 4,700+ to 4,800+

Conclusion:

While Doc was indeed right in pointing out that Str increases Desperado damage, the amount increased per stat point in Str cannot compare to the amount of damage contributed per stat point in Dex.

1 all Stats 1,200+ 1,400+ Damage increased per stat point

80 Str 1,500+ 1,600+ 3.16455696202532

200 Str 1,900+ 2,000+ 3.26633165829146

80 Dex 2,700+ 2,700+ 17.0886075949367

200 Dex 4,700+ 4,800+ 16.8341708542714

The difference in Damage contributed is mainly due the the interaction between ATK, Weapon type, STR and DEX

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